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Old August 6, 2009, 09:51 PM   #1
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Hey guys im getting 1000 dollars from my grandma for graduation this year and im wanting to get another bolt gun. I already have a 30-06 and am wanting to get something bigger. What do you recommend?
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Old August 6, 2009, 10:00 PM   #2
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Savage in whatever caliber you prefer, and spend the rest on a good optic.
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Old August 6, 2009, 10:01 PM   #3
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The new FN Winchester Model 70. I won't make a caliber recommendation.
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Old August 6, 2009, 10:08 PM   #4
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would getting a remington 700 sps and changing the stock be a good idea?
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Old August 6, 2009, 10:16 PM   #5
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weatherby vanguard in something like 300 or 338win would be good and can be had for under 500 or spend a few more for a sub-moa vanguard or a used mark V. then top it off with a good set of glass. I prefer Nikon Monarch's or Buckmasters, Zeiss Conquest, Bushnell Elite 3200 or 4200, or Burris Signature Series. These scopes are great and can be had new or slightly used for around $300 and are better than the same price point leupolds (VX II and III) [I have several Leupold VXII's III's and IV's and have compared them side by side to my other scopes mentioned above.

this would make for an awesome hunting rig and the weatherby's are super accurate and have a great reputation. I love all my weatherby's (vangurads, mark v's, d'italia shotgun)

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Old August 6, 2009, 10:18 PM   #6
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How much bigger and what will you use it for? Long range competition? Hunting woolly-mammoths?

Do you have a reloading set-up yet? Consider that the price per shot once you get into the truly big calibers is substantially higher than 30-06 and below. If you don't have one, IMHO, that might be a better investment with your $1K before a new big bore rifle.
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Old August 6, 2009, 10:21 PM   #7
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i dont have a reloading set up yet, and i want it for long range shooting
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Old August 6, 2009, 10:25 PM   #8
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Here's a good primer on long range shooting and hardware.

I think you'll find that your $1K won't go as far as you might expect.
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Old August 6, 2009, 11:12 PM   #9
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Why bigger? An '06 will kill anything in North America. Buy some reloading equipment and work up some loads for heavier bullets. You will be amazed at how interesting it is to work with ballistics tables and different powders with different weight bullets. Plus the knowledge you pick up will make you sound like you really do know what you are talking about.

You didn't say if you had anything besides the '06. Do you have a varmint rifle? Look at a .22-250, .243 or maybe .25-06...Fun rounds with eye popping performance...
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Old August 6, 2009, 11:21 PM   #10
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I would strongly suggest you take a look at Browning. Browning make fantastic rifles, the A-Bolt is and has been a legend for years. The newer version... the X-Bolt is so far better the the A-Bolt which was hard to beat. Take a look at a 300. wsm. Shoots like a 300. win mag, with the recoil of a 7mm rem mag. Not to bad. Its really flat, hits hard. If you want something bigger then take a look at the 338. win mag. The Browning A-bolt has a system called the boss that takes recoil down a notch and adds accuracy, which would help the 338 in recoil :P, pretty big gun. I have always wanted one but i dont think i can handle the recoil.
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Old August 6, 2009, 11:28 PM   #11
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Stainless Ruger Hawkeye in .338 Win mag--and Ziess Conquest 3x9x42---should pretty much cover it---both in specs and dollars.
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Old August 7, 2009, 12:43 AM   #12
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Well, you can look at the ballistics tables your ownself and ponder and dream and observe pretty much the same as I did when I was 15 or so. There's all sorts of great calibers and great rifles out there bigger than a 30-06. Lots of them work really well in fact.

The thing is though, if all you have right now is a 30-06 and you want to expand your rifle selection to 2, you have to ask yourself what you want to accomplish. That 30-06 will pretty much do anything you need to get done in fine fashion. Realistically, even a 375 H&H will only do the same job as what you already have in your hands.

So why not do something totally different? You already have the practical side covered, so get something fun and not totally necessary. Yep, you could get yourself a .458 Win Mag. You would be way cool having something to shoot buffalo and elephants and rhinos and dinosaurs and the like. Or even more radical and this is where I'm serious, look at a 45-70 lever action. Totally retro in that it's slow and massive and not a bolt action. But surprisingly useful in an old-school way. But a very serious gun that will do the job in almost every application you'll ever face. The thing is though, when you take them out to the range it will be 2 totally different experiences. And that's what most of us with more than 1 rifle are really after. Whether we have 3 or 30 different rifles, we like something way different than the one next to it.
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Old August 7, 2009, 04:52 AM   #13
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$1000 buck buys a lot of rifle

how much is a cheap used smallish lathe and a small mill??


M2 browning barrels (.50 BMG)

how much are they ?? $300??

$100 of materials and its not so hard

its a option, or for those so interested


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Old August 7, 2009, 02:48 PM   #14
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If you want the biggest honking rifle on the block, there is the 338/378 WBY. This is a cartridge for reloaders or the idle rich, but it's a beast. Significantly more ME/MV than the 338 Lapua. I have seen one used on the shelf at Scheels, for about $1000. It was a braked Accumark I believe. Get one of these and you will definately have the baddest rod on the block. Once and a while, buyers let these go first, when in a bind, cause they aren't really practical. I have never fired one, but own and reload for 340WBY, 3oo WBY, 223, 44mag, 6.5x55. The regular Weatherbys are awesome, the 378 series are monsters! CAse capacity with some powders is 120gr+. With this series 30/378, 338/378,378,416, 460WBY's you almost have to reload, because the price of ammo is astronomical $120+ for 20 rounds. Not really practical, but is a Porsch practical? I wouldn't mind having either to play with, but it would be gross overkill for my kind of hunting, mule deer generally not over 150yds.
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Old August 7, 2009, 08:04 PM   #15
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If you want something you will cherish for the rest of your life and remember your grandmother by get either the Winchester, or put a little of your own money with it and get a Kimber. If the $1000 has to include optics get a Ruger Hawkeye.

My advice is to stick with 30-06, 308, 270 or similar all purpose round because it will be a rifle you can use all the time. Anything bigger will be only used on those very rare occasions when one of the others is not enough.
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Old August 7, 2009, 08:59 PM   #16
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338 Win Mag. It's a step up, and not awful expensive to shoot. flyboy
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Old August 7, 2009, 10:31 PM   #17
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I recommend getting some top of the line reloading equipment. Reloading will do more for you than some big flinch-inducing cartridge.
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Old August 8, 2009, 02:28 PM   #18
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A thank you note to your grandmother...
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