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Old May 29, 2009, 02:58 PM   #1
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Need help identifying Proofmarks

I recently acquired this flintlock pistol from a friend and we are trying to identify its origin. It appears to be from the early to mid 1800's based on my research and is stamped with some proof marks on the barrel that I am having trouble identifying. The markings are GR under a crown with a crows feet marking below them facing away. I've included pics of the gun and the markings. The underside of the barrel was also marked with WG and a 7.

If anyone can help identify it I would greatly appreciate it!
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Old May 29, 2009, 04:12 PM   #2
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The "crows feet" sure look like British broad arrows, in which case it is British military.
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Old May 29, 2009, 05:01 PM   #3
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It appears to be a British .69 Tower smoothbore but I can't match the crown and CR proof.
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Old May 29, 2009, 06:37 PM   #4
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It is odd that the barrel indicates British military, but there is no maker or date on the lockplate. Also, the barrel looks much older than the lock, very common in an era when guns were expensive and it was common to cannibalize old or broken guns to produce serviceable weapons. I am no expert, but I wonder if it is not a British military barrel with a stock and lock made in America.

I doubt it is as late as mid-1800's as it would almost certainly have a double neck cock by that time. I suspect around 1798-1805 would be closer, but if it is indeed an assembled gun, it will be hard to date.

Are there any top museums in your area? I think it might be productive to let some real expert look at it.

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Old May 29, 2009, 06:41 PM   #5
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GR might be George III, King of England at the time of the American Revolution, or George IV, King of England after 1840.
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Old May 29, 2009, 06:43 PM   #6
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Or George III.

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Or George Rex
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