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Old October 12, 2008, 12:03 AM   #1
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tc hawkens 50 cal

iam looking for a used 50 cal barrel in 15/16 and 1/48 twist or more i have a green mountain barrel on it foe sabots 1/28 i want to go back to round ball

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Old October 12, 2008, 03:15 AM   #2
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I was looking for a .54 last week. There were several .50's on ebay.
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Old October 12, 2008, 11:58 AM   #3
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i would think a slower twist would work better for round ball....more like a 1-60

i was thinking that green mountain was making barrel replacements for the TC guns,, to replace the 1-48 barrels to better shoot round balls,,,maybe you can still get them

you might check,,,,IIRC fox ridge,,,,,i think it was

hard to tell what has happened now that they were sold

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Old October 13, 2008, 08:07 AM   #4
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There is a big mis-conception about 1-48 twist barrels in .50 caliber. There is no problem getting excellent accuracy with them. It's a great twist. The barrels will shoot heavy conicals with acceptable accuracy and excellent accuracy with patched roundballs. Here is a typical 3 shot group with open sights off the bench at 50 yards. If I had 40 year old eyes instead of 71 year old eyes the groups would be tighter I'm sure.

.50 Caliber CVA St Louis Hawken 1-48 twist. From the bench @ 50 yards.

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Old October 13, 2008, 09:05 AM   #5
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A 1:48 twist is a good all around twist for both conicals and PRB's but not the absolute best for either one. However a slower twist pretty much forbids shooting conicals and a faster twist absolutely forbids shooting PRB's.
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Old October 13, 2008, 10:34 AM   #6
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That's prettty much it, in a nut shell. Currently do not have a M/L that shoots better than my 1:66 in a 32" barrel with peep sights at 80 to 100 yds.
My Lyman shoots this kind of groups at 50yds. with PRB but selective on Conicals or Sabots and it has a 1:48.

I find your patch a bit interesting. Exactly what is it and how is it lubed? I like the print.

Go to Cain or Green Mountain and see what is available. I'm sure both can help. As far as a used barrel, good ones are hard to find, if not impossible. The last ones I saw, was on EBAY. While looking, perhaps you might want to include a .45 caliber.

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Old October 13, 2008, 11:15 AM   #7
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Track of the wolf has a good many of the Greenmountain drop in barrels for TC rifles ...I`ve bought 4 with the 1 in 70 twist for shooting round balls out of my Thompsons . flinter and cap locks . These are really good round ball shooters ....The Thompson 1 in 48 twist stock barrels left me with much to be desired...I insist on tack drivers from a bench ...These Greenmountain barrels fit the bill.
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Old October 18, 2008, 04:48 AM   #8
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I have a TC PA Hunter Carbine barrel (22" long) with 1/66 twist that would fit your barrel channel and stock; it's .50 caliber and flint ignition. This barrel is new and unfired. I bought the rifle new and unfired for the stock and lock. I already had two PA Hunters one is 31" and the other is the 22" carbine.

They are outstanding roundball shooters; I use 80 grains of Swiss or Goex 2f black powder with a .495 Hornday ball and .020 patch. One big hole at 70 yards. I would be willing to trade you even up for your 1/28 twist barrel if it's flint ignition; I would like to try sabots and conicals but don't want to buy a new rifle; just a GM drop-in. I can't find one in flint ignition.

Track of the wolf has some barrels that would drop into your stock listed. GM will be making a 15/16" .54 caliber 1/70 twist 32" long percussion barrel for drop-in on TC stocks this winter and will be available for sale in the spring. The production run is for 50 barrels only; so you must contact GM to get on the list if you want one. Speak to Kerry at GM.

They would consider making a run of the same barrel but in flint ignition if there were enough standing orders that they didn't have to keep a great deal in inventory. The minimum production run is 50 barrels and they need at least 35 standing orders to make a run; I urge anyone interested in a 15/16" .54 flinter 1/70 twist GM drop-in to place their order as soon as possible. Again; contact Kerry at GM to place a standing order.

There is a tread running on The Muzzleloading Forum concerning this under flintlocks.

If you want to trade your barrel for my extra carbine barrel send me a Personal Message on the forum board; just click on my screen name and a drop box comes down.
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