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Old March 22, 2008, 03:24 PM   #51
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Situation will ALWAYS dictate, but 99% of the time, muzzle down. It is safer, allows better visibility, and is harder to take away in close combat.
Trigger control: The skillful manipulation of the trigger, which causes the weapon to fire, while maintaining sight alignment and sight picture.
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Old March 23, 2008, 04:26 PM   #52
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For example, position 3 in a 4 count MI draw stroke - both hands are on the weapon, it is compact, below the lineof sight, readily defended, and instantly ready for use where extention wouldn't be prudent with the muzzle directed straight ahead.
But it looks silly.
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Old March 23, 2008, 04:41 PM   #53
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Grandfather and Father both taught me muzzle up so I don't take my foot or someone else's off. They both grew up in Montana where if it does come down most likely its gunna hit dirt or a tree.

My CCW instructor told us muzzle down since well we know where its going and also there is alot less chance to kill someone accidentally this way.
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Old March 24, 2008, 05:10 AM   #54
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the guys in green at my local army base told me always point it straight ahead.
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Old March 26, 2008, 09:01 AM   #55
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the guys in green at my local army base told me always point it straight ahead.
Try that in a Blackhawk or Chinook!
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Ok cap what’s the answer?
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Good article that definitely applies to the armed citizen as well as the LEO. I admit I just skimmed it so far, but I'll be going back for a more thorough reading.
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Old March 26, 2008, 08:11 PM   #58
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Ok cap what’s the answer?
Damned if I know; that's why I'm asking you guys!

Seriously, this thing has flip-flopped several times since I started shooting some 50 years ago. I don't think there is a solid, this-or-that answer.

IMHO, it depends on the circumstance. Outdoors and off pavement, I prefer down, but on concrete or asphalt, up. In a building, I prefer the direction least likely to have people on the other side of the floor or ceiling.

And all in all, I want the direction that's least likely to have any round encounter a person, be it a falling bullet or a ricochet. I'd imagine either one would hurt like hell.
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