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Old May 3, 2000, 08:54 PM   #1
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I have narrowed my purchase to these two presses. It seems that I'm out an extra $600 for the 1050. (This includes a couple of caliber change/powder conversion kits as compared to the 650/electric case feed/handle/mount/Super Swage 600.) The speed difference is not needed and I won't be going commercial.

If you have used both presses, please help me to understand what I am buying for the extra $600.
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Old May 3, 2000, 09:10 PM   #2
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Gary H, It would help us if you explained what you wanted to do with either of these fine presses. I have the 650 which I load beaucops of 308 on but if I was still wanting mounds of pistol ammo I would really look at the big press.
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Old May 3, 2000, 09:47 PM   #3
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Primarily .223 and .45 ACP .. Eventually, 9mm and Sig .357. I have been reading and planning, but have yet to reload. My intention is to purchase one progressive press and keep it, but I don't really see an advantage to the 1050 when I presently shoot less than three hundred rounds of each per month. I want less expensive practice ammunition for my defense load and am interested in playing with the .223 with regards to fine tuning different loads for different guns.
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Old May 3, 2000, 09:49 PM   #4
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I have had the 1050 for a couple of years now.A few differances are the case swage is built in on the 1050 and the press arm rides on ball bearings, which greatly reduces arm fatigue in long loading sessions.The case feed is included with the 1050 and is seperate on the 650.The 1050 is like the mercedes of the reloading world!I originally was going to go with the 550 or 650 ,but after talking with a Good friend who owned a commercial reloading bussiness along with a range he talked me into the 1050.I have zero regrets about this machine it is extremely reliable and almost fool proof.The only thing that might make a differance is if you plan on reloading multiple calibers then the 650 might be a better choice and also a lot cheaper to change out to a new caliber.I recently priced out a change from 45 to 40 and it was cheaper to buy a new press (the 550 )than it was to convert mine to the 40.I have since decided to purchese the 550 in the next few months and add another blue product to my bench.Also the 1050 is used by a lot of name brand ammo manufactures for some of thier custom ammo.I have put well over 100,000 rounds through this machine and have never had a problem with Quality brass.If you have the money to spare there is none finer than the 1050( It will not dissapoint)If you want a little value then id get the 650 ,which is a fine press also

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Old May 4, 2000, 12:12 AM   #5
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I would choose the 650 over the 1050. The 1050 has a 1yr warranty vs the lifetime no bs standard Dillon warranty. As mentioned above, caliber conversions are much more expensive compared to the 650.

FWIW- for your stated load purposes, the 550B would do nicely.
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Old May 4, 2000, 06:38 AM   #6
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Save you money and buy the 650. With the 600 bucks you save, you can buy kegs of powder, bullets, primers, brass and a several good manuals. Plus, you'll still have money left over.
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Old May 4, 2000, 04:33 PM   #7
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If I'm not mistaken, the only rifle caliber you can do on a 1050 is .223? That (and caliber change cost)was the main reason I went with the 650.
I hate to break your bubble about saving $600 though. By the time you add the casefeeder, and discs, toolheads/powder measures/dies/caliber change overs you'll have spent around $1K. (I just did it 6 mos ago)
You can choose to use your own dies to save money, many do and are happy. I tried my RBCS dies in it and promtly sold them to buy Dillons. There is a method to his madness in die design for use in a progressive press. I could never get a very good production rate with standard dies.

I think the 1050 is overkill for your intended use.You won't regret buying the 650 or the 550 for that matter.
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Old May 4, 2000, 11:11 PM   #8
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I want to thank everyone for their feedback with regard to this topic. BTW: The $600 included all items mentioned in the post, including electric case feed, conversion and dies. Thanks for your help!
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