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Old August 30, 2005, 10:52 PM   #1
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need info for 180gr Speer Gold dot 40sw

picked up some speer gold dot 180gr bonded core bullets.

have the speer 13 info but for some reason the data doesnt look right.

measured the bullets and they where slightly over .400 would say anywhere from .4005 to .401. the bullet height was inconsistent.

heard these were plated they sure look it. though thicker jacket not as squishy. would think the pressure would be more with the size being closer to .401 than .400 speer 13 books says to load them to 1.120 with various max loads ie power pistol 7.2gr 1013fps 1.120oal and universal 5.9gr 901fps 1.120oal.

looking to use Titegroup,WSF,N340 and Longshot myself.
have loaded 180gr Hornady FMJ Encapsulated and XTP to 1.125 up to max load without any issues the brass looked better than most factory loads end up and the brass was already once fired. that recoil is stout but manageable in Steyr M40.

any help appreciated
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Old August 30, 2005, 11:59 PM   #2
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You will find the max loads vary from one publication to the other. I have settled on the 180 grain hp for my .40 (mainly the xtp). I don't have data for the Gold Dot, but here's what a few manuals say about the Sierra 180 Sportmaster (a bullet I like a lot, too) at max loads: LYMAN: All oal at 1.115, 4" barrel. Power Pistol, 6.7 (974 FPS); N340, 6.0 (1014 FPS); WSF, 6.2 (993), Titegroup and Longshot, no data. SIERRA MANUAL: All oal at 1.125, 5" barrel. Power Pistol, 6.9 (1050 FPS); N340, 6.3 (1100 FPS); WSF, 6.6 (1050 FPS); Titegroup and Longshot, no data. The Hornady manual has its 180 XTP at 1.125 oal, using a 4" barrel, with Power Pistol maxing out at a whopping 7.3 grains! This supposedly generates "only" 1050 FPS, which I find hard to believe. My standard load is Power Pistol at 6.9, 1.125, and it consistently chronies at 1050 FPS out of my pistol's 4.4" barrel. I have also measured and weighed various Speer bullets and I am real unimpressed with their quality control. I stopped buying Speer rifle bullets of any type because of this exact reason. The XTPs and the Sierras are, I think, the way to go with the .40. I also have had good luck with the Montana Gold hp. I suggest you check out the .40 IPSC loads list compiled by Jeff Maass for some good info. I don't have the web address, unfortunately. Hope this helps.
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Old August 31, 2005, 12:19 AM   #3
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thanks for the reply. I have 40sw booklet from loadbooks usa showing variety of data. have used it to work up loads. the speer data is low from what I have experience. btw 6.9gr of powerpistol going 1050fps in my 4 inch barrel.
had 6.2 of wsf fly 1029fps.

I am not impressed with speer's quality specially considering the price it cost.

think I am going to checkout Remington Golden Sabers next.

thanks for mentioning the sierra info. just put a Speer Gold Dot next to pic of Sierra 180gr in my Loadbooks 40sw manual. looks very close. guess I will go with 1.125OAL and workup from their.

havent tried Montana Gold yet hear everyone talking about theyre FMJ offerings.

doh I have the ipsc loads in pdf file I should have checked that see few listings.bah nothing to helpfull
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