Loading 9MM with W231?

Russ5924 · May 27, 2005, 05:50 PM

Just got some 124grain 9MM LRN and want to use the powder I have on hand W231 been using 115grain FMJ with 4.5 of W231.But can't come up with any info in my books or internet what grain to use of W231 with the .356 124g LRN any ideas ?????

**Mike Irwin** · May 27, 2005, 05:57 PM

Use the same powder charge as for jacketed bullets and you'll be fine.

shu · May 27, 2005, 09:07 PM

speer #13 says 125gr lead round nose with w231 powder: 3.8 to 4.1 grains.
will stay under 1000 fps.

lucabrigatti · July 21, 2005, 02:28 PM

I have used 5.0 grains and I have used it in a M3 grease gun, it worked fine. I have used even higher charges with no problems in a MP40

drinks · July 21, 2005, 07:15 PM

Russ;
In general, a cast or lead bullet can use the same load as a jacketed bullet, of the same weight.
Usually, the cast or lead bullet will develope lower pressures as the jacketed bullets are harder to push through the bore and develope more back pressure and also velocity, reason cast and lead bullet loads often use a slightly faster powder for the same velocity as jacketed bullets of the same weight.
Example, my .35 Whelen, 200gr Rem. psp, 40gr Varget, 1920fps, 214gr rn gc , 40gr Varget, 1730fps, but 40gr IMR 4198 with the 214gr rn gc gives 2380fps.
Don

Swamp Yankee · July 22, 2005, 02:32 PM

9mm with a 124 grain LRN.

Hodgdon # 27 recommends:
3.3 grain WW 231 as a starting point
4.0 grains WW231 as a max load
Primer Winchester SP
COL is listed at 1.169 Max.

Take Care

May 27, 2005, 09:07 PM	#3
shu Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2000 Location: lower rio grande valley, texas Posts: 216	speer #13 says 125gr lead round nose with w231 powder: 3.8 to 4.1 grains. will stay under 1000 fps. __________________ If you would have Liberty you must accept that individual security is not the responsiblity of government. You must. - XAVIER ONASIS

July 21, 2005, 07:15 PM	#5
drinks Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2004 Posts: 405	Load Russ; In general, a cast or lead bullet can use the same load as a jacketed bullet, of the same weight. Usually, the cast or lead bullet will develope lower pressures as the jacketed bullets are harder to push through the bore and develope more back pressure and also velocity, reason cast and lead bullet loads often use a slightly faster powder for the same velocity as jacketed bullets of the same weight. Example, my .35 Whelen, 200gr Rem. psp, 40gr Varget, 1920fps, 214gr rn gc , 40gr Varget, 1730fps, but 40gr IMR 4198 with the 214gr rn gc gives 2380fps. Don

May 27, 2005, 05:50 PM	#1
Russ5924 Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2005 Posts: 1,874	Loading 9MM with W231? Just got some 124grain 9MM LRN and want to use the powder I have on hand W231 been using 115grain FMJ with 4.5 of W231.But can't come up with any info in my books or internet what grain to use of W231 with the .356 124g LRN any ideas ????? __________________ Russ5924

May 27, 2005, 05:57 PM	#2
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	Use the same powder charge as for jacketed bullets and you'll be fine.

July 21, 2005, 02:28 PM	#4
lucabrigatti Junior Member Join Date: July 19, 2005 Posts: 8	I have used 5.0 grains and I have used it in a M3 grease gun, it worked fine. I have used even higher charges with no problems in a MP40

July 22, 2005, 02:32 PM	#6
Swamp Yankee Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2000 Location: Northeastern Ct. Posts: 1,019	9mm with a 124 grain LRN. Hodgdon # 27 recommends: 3.3 grain WW 231 as a starting point 4.0 grains WW231 as a max load Primer Winchester SP COL is listed at 1.169 Max. Take Care