H&K UMP .45

KNIGHT · April 13, 1999, 02:47 PM

Does anyone know a place on the net to go for info on this marvel of technology? What are your opinions on this beauty?

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I want a Heckler&Koch MP-5K with the tactical briefcase for my birthday!!!!

fal308 · April 14, 1999, 11:25 AM

HK Pro is one of the better HK sites on the net, in my opinion. They have several rare and unusual weapons there. They also have info on the UMP. Go to www.suave.com/~hkpro click on the HK then click on the underlined line that reads something like "click here to enter the exciting world of HK". Then click on whichever weapon you want to view (including the UMP).

KNIGHT · April 14, 1999, 03:07 PM

thanks

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I want a Heckler&Koch MP-5K with the tactical briefcase for my birthday!!!!

**4V50 Gary** · April 15, 1999, 08:59 PM

Haven't shot it yet (will have next opportunity in Oct) but from what I've been told, it is vastly different from the MP5.

The MP5 is a delayed blowback operating along the same principles as the bigger G3 rifle. HK had taken the MP5 to the furthest it could develop and was afraid it was pricing itself out of the market (rumors of a Glock SMG shook up Oberndorf).

So, HK started with fresh paper and went with a straight blowback design. Just as good, just as accurate, just as well made. Thanks to newer materials and the gun being simplier, it was substantially cheaper to produce and HK hopes to retain its share of the SMG market, remain competitive, and keep the villagers of Oberndorf employed.

SKN · April 16, 1999, 11:14 AM

The UMP may not be sleek or pleasing to the eye, perhaps it's downright ugly, but it is light for its' looks and shoots accurately, manageably and slowly (cyclic rate). It has a substantial bolt group in place of the locking rollers, is simple to take down and maintenance, has MP-5 like controls and a bolt catch/hold open feature is provided. The sighting system is different but had no substantial effect in my placing rounds where I wanted them, including 15M parietal band hits.

Next S. California opportunity for LEOs to examine or shoot the weapon may be at the San Diego Regional Training Center next week (HK ITD MP-5 Operator class).

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April 13, 1999, 02:47 PM	#1
KNIGHT Member Join Date: February 25, 1999 Location: USA Posts: 71	Does anyone know a place on the net to go for info on this marvel of technology? What are your opinions on this beauty? ------------------ I want a Heckler&Koch MP-5K with the tactical briefcase for my birthday!!!!

April 14, 1999, 11:25 AM	#2
fal308 Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 12, 1998 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,992	HK Pro is one of the better HK sites on the net, in my opinion. They have several rare and unusual weapons there. They also have info on the UMP. Go to www.suave.com/~hkpro click on the HK then click on the underlined line that reads something like "click here to enter the exciting world of HK". Then click on whichever weapon you want to view (including the UMP).

April 14, 1999, 03:07 PM	#3
KNIGHT Member Join Date: February 25, 1999 Location: USA Posts: 71	thanks ------------------ I want a Heckler&Koch MP-5K with the tactical briefcase for my birthday!!!!

April 15, 1999, 08:59 PM	#4
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,829	Haven't shot it yet (will have next opportunity in Oct) but from what I've been told, it is vastly different from the MP5. The MP5 is a delayed blowback operating along the same principles as the bigger G3 rifle. HK had taken the MP5 to the furthest it could develop and was afraid it was pricing itself out of the market (rumors of a Glock SMG shook up Oberndorf). So, HK started with fresh paper and went with a straight blowback design. Just as good, just as accurate, just as well made. Thanks to newer materials and the gun being simplier, it was substantially cheaper to produce and HK hopes to retain its share of the SMG market, remain competitive, and keep the villagers of Oberndorf employed.

April 16, 1999, 11:14 AM	#5
SKN Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 1998 Location: Oregon Posts: 264	The UMP may not be sleek or pleasing to the eye, perhaps it's downright ugly, but it is light for its' looks and shoots accurately, manageably and slowly (cyclic rate). It has a substantial bolt group in place of the locking rollers, is simple to take down and maintenance, has MP-5 like controls and a bolt catch/hold open feature is provided. The sighting system is different but had no substantial effect in my placing rounds where I wanted them, including 15M parietal band hits. Next S. California opportunity for LEOs to examine or shoot the weapon may be at the San Diego Regional Training Center next week (HK ITD MP-5 Operator class).