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Old June 22, 2002, 12:02 PM   #1
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What Do You Think?

The following is from Skip G., the guy behind the National Tactical Invitational. Do any of you participate in anything like this? Do you think this would be a worhtwhile endeaver?



Study is a zealous assiduous application of the mind to the acquisition of knowledge and skill. It is accomplished by training, reading, research, practice, detailed examination and analysis, and considered reflection. It is a personal journey that benefits from some amount of group work.

The advantage of a study group is the available talent, knowledge and skills spectrum. Each member can and should contribute. A tactical and survival studies group should be formed around a study director. The director should have a good founding in tactical training. He should have life experience that permits regular practice of environmental awareness, situational analysis and confrontational analysis. He should also be able to spot the special talents that others bring to the group. Police are not the only people who learn awareness and survival skills. The soft drink delivery route driver who works in very bad section has learned to recognize subtle clues that warn of impending danger. The director should be able to spot that special knowledge in the group and develop it. Both the group and the director must keep in mind that he functions as a director of studies - not a dictator and certainly not as a guru.


Each session of the study group should examine a limited defined subject. It should teach a specific lesson. The structure of the lesson is a three step process.


The specific skill to be studied in a session must be well defined. A live fire s tage should be constructed to allow the tactician to demonstrate that he can perform that skill upon specific and immediate direction. This step establishes that the tactician knows the skill at a level of directed conscious competence.


The second step in the process examines the tactician's skills repertoire of undirected conscious competence. Develop a scenario that encourages the tactician to apply the defined skill by recognizing its need in an environment and its prompt application. The scenario is live fire, and should use reactive target systems.


The third component of the session involves tightly scripted role playing. No person who steps into this part of the study hall can have a weapon or weapon component on his person. The role players must be disciplined and tightly scripted. This secti on is not a game - and can not be used as a "gotcha". The tactician must be given a real opportunity to apply the skill that is being studied. The goal of this step is to allow the tactician to develop unconscious competence at the skill. A tactician can demonstrate that he is able to recognize the need of the skill and implement it in a dynamic interactive environment.


Video tape tacticians as they proceed through the stages. An important part of the study session is an immediate group review of the individual performances. Individual and collective reflection and analysis will help imbed the studied skill in each of the group members.


A study group lesson might involve immediate and explosive seeking available cover. Detailed study of incidents and conversations with violent criminals reveals that (1) anything can stop a handgun round and (2) your reaction to a threat must be immediate and explosive.

Set up the skill drill with IPSC targets. Have the tactician start at hand shake distance from the target. Place items of available cover in the environment. Indicate a threat. Have the tactician seek cover and engage the target. Keep the time very tight - three seconds. The purpose of the tight times is to replicate real world times, and reinforce the concept of explosiveness. Score the targets as neutralized using Rick Millers Paladin System.

Next, set up a scenario. Use 3-D reactive targets. (Delta / Redl or contact A.T.S.A.) If you have nothing else, try pepper poppers covered with Killer Ken by Simulaids. Set the target array so that as the tactician locates them he must immediately find and use cover.

Finally, set up a similar scenario using role players who have been scripted on the lesson goal. Detail search a study hall and all people in it. Remove all weapons, ammo, or their components. Anyone who steps out of the secured area is researched. Use Red Gun training weapons or paint ball guns. Allow a scripted dynamic interaction between the role players and the tactician. Record the tacticians reaction to the presented threat.


Talk with other study groups. The Internet allows easy communication of information and lesson strategy. A.T.S.A. will list your group on our Web site so that others can find you.

Study hard, then test yourself. Come to the N.T.I.
"Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it."
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Old June 23, 2002, 12:38 PM   #2
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I've posted this info in at least four different places and gotten almost no response. Been viewed several hundred times, but less than 10 responses.

I think this is a pretty solid structure for people to build their skills around. I realize that this sort of thing isn't really feasible for training organizations [cost would have to be kept low so that people can afford to participate on a monthly basis, and the amount of time and energy required to develop and run such a group would not be inconsiderable.] But for a group of training partners, this would seem to be a really good thing.

Am I way off base here, or what?
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Old June 24, 2002, 09:25 PM   #3
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took a while

I kept looking around the other boards after what I read on 1911forum. It took me quite awhile to find this on here. I thought it would have been posted under the AF section.

The concept of a Tactical Study Group must be carefully cultivated. To avoid the group degenerating in to a competition based IDPA-esque hybrid several things are needed. One, the group must be people of good moral character from diverse backgrounds who are interested in learning sound reality based techniques to survive and dominate a dynamic interpersonal confrontation. Two, the lessons and scenarios must be focused and closely scripted to prevent the point from being lost. Three, the use of force on force simulations must be used as a learning tool not as a Gottcha or paint ball game. Four, A detailed debrief followed by imediate and subsiquent review of a video tape of the scenario are essential to help renforce the positive and correct the negative actions of the tactician.

Inspite of all of the potential pitfalls the Tactical Study Group is a phenominal teaching tool for people interested in learning the harsh lessons of the world. I have learned a tremendous amount from the group that I train with. It has been the best training that I have ever attended. The repeated application of both the OODA Loop and the Avoid, Evade, Disengage and Escape cycle force the practitioners to reach for their brain before they reach for their gun. I strongly encourage anyone who is truly serious about self preservation and protecting ones family to engage in this type of training.
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Old December 31, 2004, 12:27 AM   #4
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Study Groups

One thing I'm looking for is event ideas, and this is a great one!

I think the key to developing a positive outlook gun ownership and range participation is through organized, *promoted* events.

Mention "organized event" to your typical one-box-all-year "golfing gunowner" and he'll likely whine about why he doesn't like competition (of course, this has *nothing* to do with a fragile ego ;-)

A study group would be a superb alternative. The group meets regularly (say, once a month) over the course of a year nd follows an outline developed by the group leader or host organization. The group shoots through that event's course, and results/AARs are posted on the group's web site. This type of activity could be used to promote the club/range because responsible citizens are taking the initiative to study this on their own and making it available to the general public.
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