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Old October 22, 2004, 08:26 PM   #1
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Ejector vs. Extractor - got a preference? Why?

Been looking at some doubles lately and I was wondering if there is a rule of thumb for purchasing with or without ejectors. Is there some clay game where they are taboo or just considered unsporting?
Which do you prefer and why?
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Old October 22, 2004, 09:29 PM   #2
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I don't know about any taboos or other social aspects, but I would think it would depend on whether or not you wanted to save your empty hulls for reloading. If so, it would be handy if they didn't get flipped over your shoulder each time.
I have a Beretta 686 O/U that has automatic ejectors. For instance, if I load 2 and only fire one, the empty hull goes flying when I break it open while the unfired round stays in the chamber lifted up for removal or to stay in the gun after reloading the empty barrel. For hunting this is a perfect situation. For trap shooting, it would be nice to be able to shut off the ejectors to make it easier to keep the empty hulls. Some guns have selective ejectors.
I suppose it depends on your use of the gun and your personal preferences.
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Old October 23, 2004, 05:22 PM   #3
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Ejectors are great if you are hunting, they allow you to reload quickly. For target shooting they are not as desirable.

However shooters usually learn how to defeat the ejectors, it is not that difficult if you want to save the hulls or not annoy other shooters.

I owned a Beretta 686 and had no problem keping the hulls (it was a 28 so I had to keep the hulls). Same with a Ruger and Remington O/U.

Most ejectors require you to open the gun with some force, if you go gently they act as extractors. If not you can hold your right hand (RH shooters) over the chambers when you open the gun.
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Old October 23, 2004, 08:37 PM   #4
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It wasn't because I wanted to reload the shotshells but rather to keep the place clean. I doubt a lawnmower would like chewing up several shotshells especially the larger gauges. I normally just turn the gun upside down and open it with the chamber aiming at my feet or into a neat for me anyways
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Old October 24, 2004, 11:00 AM   #5
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I defeat them and use them as ejectors most often.

One can use a ejector as a extractor - it don't work the other way around.

Don't have to bend over to pick up hulls if I defeat them , no matter if the hull is one I want to save to reload, or to keep target / hunting area neat.

For style points - "pop" them empties into your shell pouch ...
To frustrate a shooting buddy " pop" them empties into his shell pouch...
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Old October 25, 2004, 06:13 PM   #6
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All of my guns have ejectors and I use them as extractors most of the time. I usually don't leave my hulls on the ground whether target shooting or hunting.

The only time I used my ejectors to good effect was at a 50 bird trapshoot. The person squaded to my left was shooting a gas gun and rained hulls on me and my gun.

After the first round I politely asked this fellow whether he could put a shell catcher on his gun he responded by suggesting I commit an unnatural act upon myself. During the second round, I employed just the right amount of body english and managed to drill him and his gun repeatedly with hulls ejecting vigorously from my o/u. Not particularly mature I'll admit but revenge can be sweet

Extractors are more commonly found on lower priced guns and some of the best sxs deals around are English-made boxlock non-ejectors.
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Old October 25, 2004, 11:04 PM   #7
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My trap and skeet O/Us have ejectors. I seldom drop a hull, just break the gun and hold my hand over the breech. It is quicker than plucking out the empties from an extractor gun like a trap single I once owned.
I took the ejector springs out of my Cowboy SxS, SASS don't allow ejectors. But they do allow pumpguns, go figure.
My old 1100 trapgun won't throw empties as far as the next station, even with the shellcatcher off, so it is no worry to the neighbor.
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Old October 30, 2004, 01:38 AM   #8
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You've never seen the guys with ejectors catch the empties in their hands and transfer to pocket at the trap range?
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Old November 2, 2004, 10:53 AM   #9
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Clay games, never heard of a problem. If its SXS and you ever want to do cowboy with it, no ejectors are allowed.
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