Actually the newer 30 carbine loadings are quite effective on humans
The older ones were not as bad as they were made out to be
More "gun rag" ballistics
But stop me if I am wrong....we were discussing handguns
Pitiful popguns that they are
Police officers "dropped" a lot of bad guys with their .38's, which are (arguably) at the lower end of the effective caliber range.
Bottom line...anyone that depends solely on caliber to "get the job done" is fooling themselves, but hopefully nobody else!
All handguns are a compromise...if we knew we were going to a gunfight we would all (almost all) carry rifles.
So, assuming you use at least minimally effective ammunition...arguing about the caliber is silly.
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