[Glenn E. Meyer]

I want us to stay on this specific issue and not wander into general political theory. That should be clear.

Does the general right to defend yourself invalidate every restriction of gun ownership based on criminal behavior or mental capacity? Who claims that?

The specific is the conflict between the state and Fed. marijuana laws.

And I don't want to start a debate on whether X or Y liberty is immutable or a social consensus in this thread.

I'm feeling we are done with the marijuana issue. The Feds trump state medical marijuana. That's that. If you want to start a more general thread, go ahead.

If you have more to say on the specific go ahead or if not, start another thread.