Thanks both of you, I guess it's hard to find a good mixed martial arts forum because those who are really good would rather train than sit in front of a PC!
It also seems that the competitive/combative nature of martial arts tends to bleed into the discussion; there's only so many times diplomats can say "It's not the art but the fighter" while true believers can't go long before wanting to meet and throw down. Of course those short tempers could go a ways to finding out what's the "ultimate art"!
After all, the whole dueling martial artists of old thing doesn't happen today... does it?