[Metal god]

I grew up in rural NY state, left for good in 79. Never realized how bad NY laws were until I lived somewhere else that didn't have the restrictions. And that's one of the main problems, and the reason so many NY residents don't seem to care, or fight for their gun rights, its because they have been ruled by anti-gun people their entire lives, and don't know anything else.

I agree and believe CA is the same . Although I'm old enough to remember when CA wasn't so bad ( before the 90's ) I've lived through this crap so long it's just how it is here now . I hear about other states creating mag limits or AW bans and it makes me snicker a little and it shouldn't . As others shouldn't snicker at CA because they have it so much better .

Originally Posted by Martin Niemöller

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.