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I started out with patterns instead of groups. But I watched some of the older guys making one-hole groups with handguns at 30 yards, and set myself a goal to improve. I think there's hope for someone who looks at it that way -- tacticool may get someone in the door, but witnessing real skill should have a positive effect. That said, if they don't recognize the skill disparity, or never notice that they suck compared to others, there's probably no hope!
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