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Old July 30, 2012, 03:07 AM   #172
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Aaah, the good ol' Daily Mail.
Ha ha, I loathe using news-articles these days, but I needed some "sensationalism" in the essay as you say. However, the data is good.

The rates were 6.5 and 1.1 respectively.
Excellent site, I surrender the field to you sir. UNdata confirms the site you gave. Much as I hate to admit it, you fellows practice the art of fist-cuffs much better than we do here. Or don't take your fights quite as seriously

For me, promoting freer access to legal gun ownership is about a right to being able to defend oneself irrespective of crime rates, not that certain social stats warrant a gun.
You're preaching to the choir, valid points all the same.

A pleasure to meet you by the way Mr. Pond, I enjoyed reading your posts during my lurking days
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