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OhioGuy · February 14, 2019, 08:50 PM

The Canadian border agent story above is just tragic

Makes me wonder...part of the value of armed citizens is the deterrent effect on criminals, who may not act because they fear being shot by their own victims. But if those same armed citizens are now in so much fear of being shot by police (or, possibly, each other) that they won't act, then doesn't that kind of negate some of the value? Just speculating.

Bob sees the mass shooter. Bob could take action and save people. Bob doesn't want to die at the hands of the killer. He also doesn't want to die at the hands of the police. So Bob escapes when perhaps he could have saved many lives?

Anyways, the attitude that "anyone who would carry a gun must be a criminal or on the same level as criminals" should be eliminated, but I suspect it never will be.

February 14, 2019, 08:50 PM	#29
OhioGuy Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2016 Posts: 1,089	The Canadian border agent story above is just tragic Makes me wonder...part of the value of armed citizens is the deterrent effect on criminals, who may not act because they fear being shot by their own victims. But if those same armed citizens are now in so much fear of being shot by police (or, possibly, each other) that they won't act, then doesn't that kind of negate some of the value? Just speculating. Bob sees the mass shooter. Bob could take action and save people. Bob doesn't want to die at the hands of the killer. He also doesn't want to die at the hands of the police. So Bob escapes when perhaps he could have saved many lives? Anyways, the attitude that "anyone who would carry a gun must be a criminal or on the same level as criminals" should be eliminated, but I suspect it never will be.