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**Mike Irwin** · May 24, 2010, 12:21 PM

I've not watched the video. For some reason my computer chokes on it.

I'm making a general comment.

And, for a reality check, VAPA, you should read about some of the actions and laws later taken by the very men who wrote the Constitution.

Actions that, on their very face, don't appear to be very Constitutional even working within the spirit of their own actions.

"clearly illegal?"

"very brief."

Have the courts defined "very brief"? Is it less than 20 minutes? Less than 0.0000000000125 seconds?

Lacking a defined value of what constitutes "very brief", one can't claim that something is clearly illegal.

One can only suggest that it violates the spirit of the court findings and is illegal based on a subjective standard.

May 24, 2010, 12:21 PM	#37
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,380	I've not watched the video. For some reason my computer chokes on it. I'm making a general comment. And, for a reality check, VAPA, you should read about some of the actions and laws later taken by the very men who wrote the Constitution. Actions that, on their very face, don't appear to be very Constitutional even working within the spirit of their own actions. "clearly illegal?" "very brief." Have the courts defined "very brief"? Is it less than 20 minutes? Less than 0.0000000000125 seconds? Lacking a defined value of what constitutes "very brief", one can't claim that something is clearly illegal. One can only suggest that it violates the spirit of the court findings and is illegal based on a subjective standard. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.