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**44 AMP** · April 24, 2017, 10:59 AM

Original 97s (and correct copies) and model 12s will do that. There is NO DISCONNECTOR. My younger brother missed losing a foot by a couple inches one time, when he chambered a shell in my old Model 12 (borrowed without asking) with his finger on the trigger.

Winchester added a disconnector to late production model 12s, (trap guns, starting in the 60s, I think) but I'd have to look up the actual date this began.

April 24, 2017, 10:59 AM	#9
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,833	Original 97s (and correct copies) and model 12s will do that. There is NO DISCONNECTOR. My younger brother missed losing a foot by a couple inches one time, when he chambered a shell in my old Model 12 (borrowed without asking) with his finger on the trigger. Winchester added a disconnector to late production model 12s, (trap guns, starting in the 60s, I think) but I'd have to look up the actual date this began. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.