Have a Vortex red dot w/ Vortex flip-magnifier. Works just fine but mostly is a chunk of metal in the way. Had the PST 1-4 which was very nice. Now to my point. If considering a 1-4 you might as well go 1-6. Check the various forums classifieds for optics. More times than not you can pick one up that otherwise you might not have wanted to pay retail.
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