Thanks for the replies ! For now my State only requires non-lead shot ( mostly steel shot ) for waterfowl hunting or the areas designated for waterfowl hunting...so a lot of times I even use steel shot for Pheasants and Ruffed Grouse if I'm hunting close to those areas in case we find birds on or near them ! Maybe its just tongue wagging , but I've heard rumors of proposals banning bullets containing lead as well in certain locations ! I agree with proper shot placement , cleaning , and processing being the key...though admittedly have had bullets go the full length way in deer ( between the front shoulders and exit out near the rear ) ! I have not even tried an all copper or lead free bullet out of any rifle or handgun I own yet....never seen the need so far ! Most of my 45-70 handloads don't break the 2000 fps barrier and some don't even come close like my 400 grain cast bullet loads ! Now in my .243 cal. rifle that is not even a challenge !