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**Mike Irwin** · September 11, 2012, 11:16 AM

"The basic problem with the Army running tests to "prove" they were not at fault, and P. O Ackley running tests to "prove" that blowing out the shoulders reduces bolt thrust, is that neither were an independent tester and they simply tested until they proved the point they wanted to make."

OK.

Then let me ask you this.

Where is your body of independent testing that conclusively proves that Hatcher was lying?

Where is your body of independent testing that conclusively proves that the Army's manufacturing processes were 100% at fault?

Where is your body of independent testing that conclusively proves that civilian competitors greasing their bullets had no bearing at all on the subsequent rifle failures?

September 11, 2012, 11:16 AM	#26
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,380	"The basic problem with the Army running tests to "prove" they were not at fault, and P. O Ackley running tests to "prove" that blowing out the shoulders reduces bolt thrust, is that neither were an independent tester and they simply tested until they proved the point they wanted to make." OK. Then let me ask you this. Where is your body of independent testing that conclusively proves that Hatcher was lying? Where is your body of independent testing that conclusively proves that the Army's manufacturing processes were 100% at fault? Where is your body of independent testing that conclusively proves that civilian competitors greasing their bullets had no bearing at all on the subsequent rifle failures? __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.