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Old December 6, 2017, 09:14 AM   #30
5whiskey
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Bob has a rule that people with a license to juggle geese are officially green.

Frank has a rule that people who Bob says are green can't own goats.

Norbert goes to Frank and gets a license to juggle geese.

Norbert's license to juggle geese makes him officially green according to Bob's rule and that means that Frank's no goats rule automatically kicks in.
No need for any kind of investigation to see if Norbert is green.
No need to establish probable cause that Norbert is green.
Norbert's claim that he isn't green doesn't matter.

Norbert IS officially green per Bob's rule and therefore he can't own goats per Frank's rule.

So Frank drops by Norbert's place and confiscates any goats that Norbert owns.

In effect, because of the two rules, Norbert's license to juggle geese is also a permission slip for Frank to come and take any goats he owned. Norbert just didn't understand what he was doing when he went to get his license.
A very colorful analogy John

And this is why, boys and girls, you get yourself an attorney and you fully study the consequences of your actions. Every action has some form of consequence. Medical Marijuana has some decent science backing it... but to be completely fair many of the benefits have been replicated with Marinol. I am convinced that in many cases, Marinol would be almost equally as effective, and you would maintain your constitutional rights. And we must be honest with ourselves. MANY (not all) medical marijuana users are additionally interested in the ability to legally smoke marijuana for recreation. I'm not saying that this is their only reason for obtaining a card (but we know that it is for some), but it is a "fringe" benefit that many are happy to have. In HI, this fringe benefit comes with a price.

With all this being said, it boils down to "think carefully and make an informed decision." Don't take a plea offer if you are charged with a crime out of fear. Get an attorney, discuss it, and make a rational decision. Consider alternatives to medical marijuana if you want to maintain your 2nd amendment rights in HI (probably some other states coming soon). Don't sign up for the military the first time you talk to a recruiter. Don't impulse buy a car. There are a lot of examples. I have little sympathy when people make ill-informed decisions because it looks/feels good at the time, yet complain later about unforeseen consequences.
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