i tried the federal #4 buck in 2 3/4 shells with 34 pellets. same sawed off shotgun at 10 yards. i think i rather these in the house:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v9...t=SAM_0081.jpg
then i tried the federal low recoil 00 buck with flite control wad at 50 yards with another sawed off mossberg 12 ga i bring in the truck:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v9...t=SAM_0083.jpg