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Dfariswheel · September 23, 2006, 02:25 PM

vanfunk:

Remington has varied the marking procedure on the 870 since 1950.
Up until about 15 to 20 years ago, the Police model was marked simply as a "Wingmaster", then they started marking them as "870 Police", then as the "870 Police Magnum".

The Express with an 18" barrel was originally marked as a "Express Home Defense Magnum" or HD model, then several years ago they dropped that and now stamp them simply as an "Express Magnum".
There IS no longer a Remington model named the "Home Defense" or "HD".

Before the Express came along, some Wingmaster's were marked simply as a "870 Magnum" since there WAS no Express.
There were only standard Wingmasters and Magnum Wingmasters.
When the Express did come along, they had to start adding "Express" or "Wingmaster" to properly identify the various models.

The point is, Remington has always followed the standard of assigning model names to their guns. They make the Wingmaster, the Express, the Special Purpose (SPS), the Police , etc.
One MODEL name they've never used was simply "870 Magnum", and you'll find NO model so listed in any Remington catalog.

You WILL find various Express, Wingmaster, etc guns listed as Magnum models.

All this is largely a matter of Remington's naming and marking conventions, but the bottom line is, Remington has never had an 870 shotgun NAMED ONLY "870 Magnum".
They were always Wingmaster, Express or other models with "Magnum" added to identify the gun as a Magnum version.

If you ever called Remington and asked them about an 870 Magnum, the first question the Remington rep would have asked was, "WHICH model, Wingmaster or Express"?

September 23, 2006, 02:25 PM	#22
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	vanfunk: Remington has varied the marking procedure on the 870 since 1950. Up until about 15 to 20 years ago, the Police model was marked simply as a "Wingmaster", then they started marking them as "870 Police", then as the "870 Police Magnum". The Express with an 18" barrel was originally marked as a "Express Home Defense Magnum" or HD model, then several years ago they dropped that and now stamp them simply as an "Express Magnum". There IS no longer a Remington model named the "Home Defense" or "HD". Before the Express came along, some Wingmaster's were marked simply as a "870 Magnum" since there WAS no Express. There were only standard Wingmasters and Magnum Wingmasters. When the Express did come along, they had to start adding "Express" or "Wingmaster" to properly identify the various models. The point is, Remington has always followed the standard of assigning model names to their guns. They make the Wingmaster, the Express, the Special Purpose (SPS), the Police , etc. One MODEL name they've never used was simply "870 Magnum", and you'll find NO model so listed in any Remington catalog. You WILL find various Express, Wingmaster, etc guns listed as Magnum models. All this is largely a matter of Remington's naming and marking conventions, but the bottom line is, Remington has never had an 870 shotgun NAMED ONLY "870 Magnum". They were always Wingmaster, Express or other models with "Magnum" added to identify the gun as a Magnum version. If you ever called Remington and asked them about an 870 Magnum, the first question the Remington rep would have asked was, "WHICH model, Wingmaster or Express"?