I have had some success making reduced recoil loads for the kids ..... a few years back with a .270 WIN with 130gr SP @2800 and lately with a Ruger Frontier in 7mm-08 loaded down to 2400 f/sec for a 139gr bullet. Both loads proved plenty lethal at less than 100 yards, which was as far as the shooters could hit a pie plate at the time ......
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