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I have loaded them at 3.185", that is .020 off of what I believe to be the bullet striking the lands. When I said the brass was not neck sized, I was refering to the "Test" case I was using to check my chambering. I have full length sized all the brass even though it was new. Some went by with very little effort while some had some push to them so I guess its a good idea to size new brass as well. I am going to try to just neck size them once they have been fired in my rifle.
Thanks guys as always your a great resource.
Will
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