Thanks guys, I'm about out of the wonder wads that I stocked up on when I started this venture. So its time to make some up. I want to get a set of punches that way I can make some up for .50, .54, .58. of course 1/2" is .50 cal. What would be close for .54 and .58? Good Grief I have WAY to many of these here smoke pole Calibers. Errrrr on second thought, NO I DON'T!!