[Pond, James Pond]

Their initial logical that "you can control bad guys by legislating gun control" is completely flawed!
That's why you keep going round and round.
That's why this thread is going round and round.

This is why, from the outset, I decided to view it as something beyond purely gun crime because, as I see it, it can't be separated from crime as a whole. Certainly not if you hope to have a successful outcome.

But the fact remains that the pro-gun group has a reactionary role in this debate. It is always having to play catch-up to a new anti- initiative and I'd like to see the anti-s on the back foot for a change.

For me, this thread is about thinking like your opponent, you can anticipate and counter their possible tactics.
It doesn't mean that you agree with or acknowledge their logic, just that you're more prepared for its next manifestation...