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jmortimer · February 14, 2010, 03:41 PM

Well you sure can go wrong with an 870 Express which has a reputation as a "Jam-O-Matic" - just do a simple search on the web and you will find many complaints about current production 870 Express including, I believe on this Forum as well. Not so with the Remington/Marlin/H&R Pardner which is reliable out of the box. It is made exactly the same way with as much or more steel. If you get an 870 get the Wingmaster for sure. The Wingmaster has a well deserved reputation for excellence. Between the Remington Express and the "Remington" Pardner which is a clone of the 870 all parts are interchangeable - Do yourself a favor and get the Pardner and use the money you save for a bunch of shotshells.

February 14, 2010, 03:41 PM	#37
jmortimer Junior member Join Date: January 24, 2010 Location: South West Riverside County California Posts: 2,763	Well you sure can go wrong with an 870 Express which has a reputation as a "Jam-O-Matic" - just do a simple search on the web and you will find many complaints about current production 870 Express including, I believe on this Forum as well. Not so with the Remington/Marlin/H&R Pardner which is reliable out of the box. It is made exactly the same way with as much or more steel. If you get an 870 get the Wingmaster for sure. The Wingmaster has a well deserved reputation for excellence. Between the Remington Express and the "Remington" Pardner which is a clone of the 870 all parts are interchangeable - Do yourself a favor and get the Pardner and use the money you save for a bunch of shotshells.