Thread: 9mm, 9mm +p
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Old May 13, 2018, 09:47 PM   #8
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What we label as +p here is standard issue in the rest of the world, that means a 124 gr bullet at 1200-1250 fps.
The rest of the world doesn't go by SAAMI standards or labels.

Now, here's an interesting thing, the original GERMAN 9mm Luger load was a 124gr bullet at 1050fps from a 100mm (4") barrel. One thousand fifty feet per second. NOT 1200fps. 1050fps. This was the load adopted by the German Navy in 1906 and the German Army in 1908 when they adopted the Luger pistol. (hence P.08)

Sometime around 1915 or slightly earlier, the load was changed, to a 115gr bullet at 1150fps (again from a 4", the standard Luger barrel)

During WWII, every nation that loaded the 9mm Luger round (and there were several besides Germany) loaded rounds of several different levels. Some where lighter than the "standard" 115gr ball, several were higher and some very much higher pressures. Some were identified as "+p" (or that nation's equivalent term), some were not. Some were identified with "not for _____, some said "for SMG use", some said nothing at all different from the regular ammo.

If you are talking about current manufacture firearms, and "+p" ammo, from known and trusted makers, one who either follows SAAMI or lists the actual pressures, that's one thing. If you're looking at something else, something simply marked "+p", it becomes a matter of trust.

DO you REALLY know what you are getting???

Your gun, your ammo, your wallet, so its your call.
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