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DIY_guy · May 5, 2014, 04:28 PM

A rare sunny and windy day. 168 hours (7 days) have elapsed since I placed Board #1 outside. No change from the day before.

At this point I will close out the evaluation of board #1 (but continue to monitor) Here is a picture of the entire board.

Here is a video so you can get a better look at each sample. Start and stop the video as you see fit. Despite the constant rains and clouds, the UV rays have taken their toll on the sharpie marker used to denote each brand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5F_QnEa-gc

The second group of plates was also evaluated outdoors and started the day after board #1. The metal samples were treated with product and then sat in my shop for 12 hours to dry, cure, evaporate, film-over before the board was placed outside. Here is sample board #2

Here is a short video close up of all the samples on board #2. Even though I crossed off Frog Lube a couple days ago because of the formation of corrosion you will see its still doing a pretty good job of protecting the plate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCOOAnvMWe8

The plan was to mist them with clean water but with all the rain that was not required. The duration of the evaluation was a mix of sunny and bright and heavy rains but very windy exposing the samples to UV, wind, rain, dust and all the other elements we encounter when using our firearms, bows, knives, tools, etc. It was a time to conduct such an experiment.

I’m sure everybody living in my area of the state hated this wet stormy spring weather except me. I couldn’t have picked a better set of days to do this evaluation. Upper 30’s to low 40’s, high winds, on and off showers and breaks of sunlight and cold rainy nights. Its like living in a corrosion test chamber.

Most evaluations of this nature run a single set of samples and call it good enough. I’m running 3 sample boards and already I am seeing differences in results from board #1 to board #2 so I think it was a wise move to run multiple samples. Recall that board #1 was misted with a salted water solution to expedite corrosion. Sample board #2 has only seen exposure to rain water but the results after 24 hours are showing sample board #2 is has more product failures than board #1 in its first 24 hours (something I did not expect to see). When I observed sample board #1 after 24 hours, a total of 23 samples exhibited signs of corrosion. Sample board #2 has been outside for 24 hours and already 34 of the 46 products are exhibiting signs of corrosion (74% of the products are failing)

Oddly, the controls on board #2 (which are treated with nothing) are faring better than some of the plates that are protected by product (opposite of what was observed on board #1)

Here is a photo of sample board #2 after the first 24 hours.

It’s a shorter list to name the products that are still providing resistance to corrosion on Sample board #2. They are.

Gun Seal

WD-40 Specialist

Hoppe’s gun oil

Boeshield T-9

Frog Lube

Rust prevent

Tuf-Glide

Rem Oil with moisture Guard

Weapons Shield

Hornady One Shot

Militec-1

Rand CLP

Here is a video of board #2 so you can see which products are failing in the first 24 hours. (don’t confuse debris with rust. The video may make it look like some plates are corroding when they are actually use dirty from all the wind blown debris and rain)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LikzlnnZ9hQ

After 48 hours, the un-corroded samples from board #2 are shown below (I contend that the Hornady ‘s One Shot, edge corrosion shown below is edge contamination on my part as described earlier. I can’t otherwise explain why the majority of the plate is corrosion free expect a strip along the left edge except that I failed to apply the product to that portion of the plate.)

May 5, 2014, 04:28 PM	#14
DIY_guy Senior Member Join Date: April 1, 2014 Posts: 120	A rare sunny and windy day. 168 hours (7 days) have elapsed since I placed Board #1 outside. No change from the day before. At this point I will close out the evaluation of board #1 (but continue to monitor) Here is a picture of the entire board. Here is a video so you can get a better look at each sample. Start and stop the video as you see fit. Despite the constant rains and clouds, the UV rays have taken their toll on the sharpie marker used to denote each brand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5F_QnEa-gc The second group of plates was also evaluated outdoors and started the day after board #1. The metal samples were treated with product and then sat in my shop for 12 hours to dry, cure, evaporate, film-over before the board was placed outside. Here is sample board #2 Here is a short video close up of all the samples on board #2. Even though I crossed off Frog Lube a couple days ago because of the formation of corrosion you will see its still doing a pretty good job of protecting the plate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCOOAnvMWe8 The plan was to mist them with clean water but with all the rain that was not required. The duration of the evaluation was a mix of sunny and bright and heavy rains but very windy exposing the samples to UV, wind, rain, dust and all the other elements we encounter when using our firearms, bows, knives, tools, etc. It was a time to conduct such an experiment. I’m sure everybody living in my area of the state hated this wet stormy spring weather except me. I couldn’t have picked a better set of days to do this evaluation. Upper 30’s to low 40’s, high winds, on and off showers and breaks of sunlight and cold rainy nights. Its like living in a corrosion test chamber. Most evaluations of this nature run a single set of samples and call it good enough. I’m running 3 sample boards and already I am seeing differences in results from board #1 to board #2 so I think it was a wise move to run multiple samples. Recall that board #1 was misted with a salted water solution to expedite corrosion. Sample board #2 has only seen exposure to rain water but the results after 24 hours are showing sample board #2 is has more product failures than board #1 in its first 24 hours (something I did not expect to see). When I observed sample board #1 after 24 hours, a total of 23 samples exhibited signs of corrosion. Sample board #2 has been outside for 24 hours and already 34 of the 46 products are exhibiting signs of corrosion (74% of the products are failing) Oddly, the controls on board #2 (which are treated with nothing) are faring better than some of the plates that are protected by product (opposite of what was observed on board #1) Here is a photo of sample board #2 after the first 24 hours. It’s a shorter list to name the products that are still providing resistance to corrosion on Sample board #2. They are. Gun Seal WD-40 Specialist Hoppe’s gun oil Boeshield T-9 Frog Lube Rust prevent Tuf-Glide Rem Oil with moisture Guard Weapons Shield Hornady One Shot Militec-1 Rand CLP Here is a video of board #2 so you can see which products are failing in the first 24 hours. (don’t confuse debris with rust. The video may make it look like some plates are corroding when they are actually use dirty from all the wind blown debris and rain) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LikzlnnZ9hQ After 48 hours, the un-corroded samples from board #2 are shown below (I contend that the Hornady ‘s One Shot, edge corrosion shown below is edge contamination on my part as described earlier. I can’t otherwise explain why the majority of the plate is corrosion free expect a strip along the left edge except that I failed to apply the product to that portion of the plate.)