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Old January 28, 2014, 01:42 AM   #47
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so I guess the 1888 mauser rifles and lee metfords(the progenitor of the lee enfield) were a dead end first gen rifle?
The 1888 commission rifle wasn't a Mauser. It was a total dead end because it shared no major features with any of Mauser's designs.

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And the M1911 is still in production and widely regarded as THE handgun for military or self defense use.
Not even close! It is a dinosaur that isn't used by any military or police force in the world without jumping through alot of hoops and getting waivers and special permission.

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AFAIK only the Italians and the Austro-Hungarians used the Mannlicher clip
France, Italy, USA, Germany, Greece, Austria, There were others, but it was always a weakness in those countries' rifle's designs.

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-the Austro-Hungarians and the Canadians were the only major armies to field straight pull rifles, the Ross was weighed in the balance and found wanting.
As mentioned above the Swiss (K96,1911,& 31) Also the Lee navy was a straight pull
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