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**Mike Irwin** · August 24, 2012, 11:40 AM

"There is no switch whatsoever, let alone a 'full auto' setting..."

Are you at all familiar with the MP-5 family of firearms?

There most certainly is a "switch," which is a coloquial term for lever.

In a semi-automatic version of the MP-5 the "switch" moves through two positions -- Safe and Fire.

In the fully automatic version of the MP-5, the "switch" moves through three (or in some versions, I THINK four) positions -- Safe, Semi-automatic, Burst, and Fully Automatic.

Without physically examining the firearm, there's simply no way for the officer to ascertain if the gun is in fact a semi-automatic or fully automatic.

From that standpoint alone his actions were fully justified based on the stated requirements of Oregon law regarding semi-automatic vs. fully automatic firearms.

August 24, 2012, 11:40 AM	#20
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,385	"There is no switch whatsoever, let alone a 'full auto' setting..." Are you at all familiar with the MP-5 family of firearms? There most certainly is a "switch," which is a coloquial term for lever. In a semi-automatic version of the MP-5 the "switch" moves through two positions -- Safe and Fire. In the fully automatic version of the MP-5, the "switch" moves through three (or in some versions, I THINK four) positions -- Safe, Semi-automatic, Burst, and Fully Automatic. Without physically examining the firearm, there's simply no way for the officer to ascertain if the gun is in fact a semi-automatic or fully automatic. From that standpoint alone his actions were fully justified based on the stated requirements of Oregon law regarding semi-automatic vs. fully automatic firearms. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.