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Marco Califo · July 19, 2018, 12:22 AM

Thank you for answering, and detailing your test.
I thought you meant 45 ACP, not the 45 Colt revolver cartridge. If I had to carry 230 grain bullets in 45 ACP, I would not choose HP's. If I carried 45 ACP it would be loaded with 185 gr HP's.
Here is the combat course fire I am required to shoot:
"Stage 1 15 yards 6 rounds in 30 seconds
• 6 standing position
Stage 2 7 yards 14 rounds in 45 seconds (includes 2 reloads)
(load 6, 6 and 2)
• 6 standing position
• 8 kneeling position
Stage 3 7 yards 6 rounds in 10 seconds (any position)
Stage 4 7 yards 12 rounds in 25 seconds (includes reload)
(load 6 and 6)
• 6 strong hand unsupported
(reload and switch hands)
• 6 weak hand unsupported
Stage 5 5 yards 6 rounds
• 3 rounds in 4 seconds (2 stages)
Stage 6 3 yards 6 rounds
• 2 rounds in 3 seconds (3 stages)"
I understand your results. If, and when, I can get the HHP I will try something similar to my course of fire. Like 40SW, 155 gr PFP, 155 XTP, 155 HHP
Same routine with 9mm 115 HHP, but 115 STHP AND 115 Ranier PRN (because I have those on hand). That may, or may not, tell me something. Even if I had similar accuracy results to you, I believe I could still qualify. If defending my home or dog while hiking I think I would be firing at 3-7 yards range where most shootings take place.

July 19, 2018, 12:22 AM	#13
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area) Posts: 2,601	Thank you for answering, and detailing your test. I thought you meant 45 ACP, not the 45 Colt revolver cartridge. If I had to carry 230 grain bullets in 45 ACP, I would not choose HP's. If I carried 45 ACP it would be loaded with 185 gr HP's. Here is the combat course fire I am required to shoot: "Stage 1 15 yards 6 rounds in 30 seconds • 6 standing position Stage 2 7 yards 14 rounds in 45 seconds (includes 2 reloads) (load 6, 6 and 2) • 6 standing position • 8 kneeling position Stage 3 7 yards 6 rounds in 10 seconds (any position) Stage 4 7 yards 12 rounds in 25 seconds (includes reload) (load 6 and 6) • 6 strong hand unsupported (reload and switch hands) • 6 weak hand unsupported Stage 5 5 yards 6 rounds • 3 rounds in 4 seconds (2 stages) Stage 6 3 yards 6 rounds • 2 rounds in 3 seconds (3 stages)" I understand your results. If, and when, I can get the HHP I will try something similar to my course of fire. Like 40SW, 155 gr PFP, 155 XTP, 155 HHP Same routine with 9mm 115 HHP, but 115 STHP AND 115 Ranier PRN (because I have those on hand). That may, or may not, tell me something. Even if I had similar accuracy results to you, I believe I could still qualify. If defending my home or dog while hiking I think I would be firing at 3-7 yards range where most shootings take place. __________________ ............