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i was unaware of smart reloader's stealing from berry's. I will definately spend my $ elsewhere. this is why I love this forum. Thanks for the info
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They didn't start with berry's! Lee precision for instance will not outsource anything they sell so this dumbreloader company comes along and steals their excellent classic cast press design and has it made in China, but they don't stop here! they also copied hornady's hand primer and then they ripped off berry's design.