If you are going to get the Vanguard carbine, check on the barrel contour first. Based on their website, the carbine has a #1 contour, which is great for carrying, but will heat up quickly and open your groups as you practice at the range. You may want to go with the standard synthetic which has a #2 contour barrel. I bought the standard synthetic and it shoots groups under one inch with factory ammo. Down the road if you want a shorter barrel have a gunsmith take a couple inches off.
I bought my S2 a year ago for $425. Have the prices gone up, or did I just get a great deal? You may want to shop around before paying $500.
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