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Old June 13, 2021, 01:14 PM   #27
dogtown tom
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3D printed braces fall into the same grey area as half of the "real" braces on the market. It doesn't matter who made it. If the goal is to make "unauthorized" braces go away, then you have to include the homemade in any free amnesty.
Says who?
The ATF isn't under any such restriction, and the recently proposed worksheet on criteria for braces gives insight into their thought process. From the worksheet it seems some braces are acceptable, hence no need for grandfathering or amnesty.

And the goal isn't making "unauthorized" braces go away, but to backpedal on their original determination.

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Obviously. But you're missing the point. It isn't about the manufacturers that can make a million braces. Those braces mean absolutely nothing unless they sell. The point of 3D printed braces is that they can come from anywhere, can be adapted to any firearm, and if the ATF offered a free amnesty, people would start printing 'free tax stamps' in the form of pistol braces, as fast as possible.
How old are you? Remember 1986?
Gun manufacturers and makers were churning out every auto sear and machine gun receiver they could prior to implementation of the Hughes Amendment.
Remember the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban? Manufacturers produced millions of pistol and rifle magazines that guess what.........were legal to sell throughout the AWB. PreBans still bring a premium

A "free amnesty" affects manufacturers and 3D printers exactly the same. If it was made before a deadline on manufacturing.....its grandfathered. If manufactured or 3D printed afterward its not.



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Commercial manufacturers don't get 'free tax stamps', the end user does.
Says who?
Until illegal, they are legal. If possession of something is legal now, it doesn't matter if made by a 3D printer or commercial manufacturer.


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And the end user is where these 3D printed braces get created.
FYI......you don't need a 3D printer to make an arm brace.


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Just because you cannot understand the 3D printed gun world and the impact that it is having does not mean that it does not exist.
No, sir. I fully understand the 3D printed gun world. But we aren't talking about 3D printed guns, but an accessory that requires no license to make, print or manufacture.



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It is a good indicator, however, that you may have your head in the sand. "Doesn't interest me, so it doesn't matter."
You quoted something I didn't write.



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You are not alone, though. The gun world, as a whole, does not understand the 3D printing world - especially the 3D printed guns. Ignorance is the majority attitude.
Being that 3D printed guns are an incredibly small percentage of firearms its should surprise you. Statistically insignificant.


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3D printed firearms and accessories are all over the ATF's radar. About 30% of the "Ghost Gun parts kit" crackdown is worded to directly impact companies selling parts kits for 3D printed guns. --Not "80%" ARs, "80%" 1911s, or "80%" Glocks; but 3D printed firearms - like the MacDaddy, FGC9, Big Point, and CZAR.
The end result, if implemented as the ATF desires, will impact the "80%" market as well. But the wording is meant to shut down or severely hinder the suppliers of kits and parts for 3D printed firearms, while simultaneously compromising some designs for the people that want to remain legal (by way of the visible serial number requirement).
Yeah, we know that.
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