Never, old frames were "full sized"- i.e. "Ruger Only" load capable.My "Old" style Vaquero .45 Colt was too big for my hands until I switched out to slimmer grips. The new Vaqueros are built on a medimum size frame and fits my hand perfectly right out of the box. Good to about 20k psi in .45 Colt. No
.44 mag like Ruger had in the "Old" style.
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