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FirstFreedom · July 4, 2007, 07:07 PM

I may as well just change my sig line to "I agree with SteelCore". Then I won't have to type anything.

About the only thing the MP5 and other pistol cal subguns do very well, is for SWAT or military applications, where a select-fire suppressed weapon is needed so as not to tip off the ultimate target or other enemy pockets nearby. 147 subsonic 9mms can be quiet if suppressed. For everyday cop, handgun. For average soldier or SWAT officer, rifle-cal carbine is superior and just as light & reliable. The AR M4 type carbine can be made to be very lightweight, and it has a lot more oomph. Not quite as controllable in full-auto, that's true, but the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, IMO. Not saying that your opinion is not valid; it is; obviously you base it on personal experience..

July 4, 2007, 07:07 PM	#13
FirstFreedom Junior member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: The Toll Road State, U.S.A. Posts: 12,451	I may as well just change my sig line to "I agree with SteelCore". Then I won't have to type anything. About the only thing the MP5 and other pistol cal subguns do very well, is for SWAT or military applications, where a select-fire suppressed weapon is needed so as not to tip off the ultimate target or other enemy pockets nearby. 147 subsonic 9mms can be quiet if suppressed. For everyday cop, handgun. For average soldier or SWAT officer, rifle-cal carbine is superior and just as light & reliable. The AR M4 type carbine can be made to be very lightweight, and it has a lot more oomph. Not quite as controllable in full-auto, that's true, but the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, IMO. Not saying that your opinion is not valid; it is; obviously you base it on personal experience..