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TZEAZAS, Thanks for your reply, the info does help. I'm kind of dissapointed with the Lyman manual. I doesn't even have a 45acp lrn in 230gr, and the fmj 230gr gives no data for W231, one of the most popular powders for the 45acp. In other calibers it seems to omit some of the most popular bullet weights also. Rod Black
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