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Old August 2, 2001, 03:55 PM   #30
Byron Quick
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In the Japanese styles that Spectre and I study, most punches have the body moving behind the punch,i.e, you are stepping through the punch. Of course, the shoulder is used-after all that's where your arm attaches to your body-just not in the same manner as other styles use.

I think what Spectre meant to say was that the force of the strike is not dependent on the shoulder muscles in our styles.
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