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Wow -- four pages of posts about bad guns and nobody has bashed Hi-Point yet! Maybe those who bought H-P are ashamed to admit?
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Or more likely they don't belong in the hunk of junk category!
Big, awkward, ugly, unrefined, yes. Junk, no, Reliable, and accurate with unquestionably the best customer support in the business! But they are so tough that customer support isn't often needed.