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briandg · January 4, 2018, 02:41 PM

Glenn, that isn't my specific meaning. ThAt is the keystone. We were granted these rights by God, by being born, by living, thAt is the specific reason behind'rights'. Natural rights that men are born to possess.

Tyranny does not mean our government alone, that Bill was specifically written in time of ongoing conflict with a despot. Irregular troops were used and Joe the farmer had to defend himself against the same enemy with weapons. Tyranny has never been our problem regarding our govt, in a way that the second was relevant, UNLESS you count the armed insurrection by the south.
Does tyranny include repression and or attack by non-govt agents? of course it does. It's not often approached in this manner, but don't we have a right, given by God, to put an end to illegal oppression by means of arms? Of course, isn't that what all of the defensive weaponry involves?

I believe that weapons are no longer a tool to end oppression. The second now belongs to other causes, but it is valid for everything that could be oppression, up to and including shooting at those tinfoil tanks.

January 4, 2018, 02:41 PM	#70
briandg Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2010 Posts: 5,468	Glenn, that isn't my specific meaning. ThAt is the keystone. We were granted these rights by God, by being born, by living, thAt is the specific reason behind'rights'. Natural rights that men are born to possess. Tyranny does not mean our government alone, that Bill was specifically written in time of ongoing conflict with a despot. Irregular troops were used and Joe the farmer had to defend himself against the same enemy with weapons. Tyranny has never been our problem regarding our govt, in a way that the second was relevant, UNLESS you count the armed insurrection by the south. Does tyranny include repression and or attack by non-govt agents? of course it does. It's not often approached in this manner, but don't we have a right, given by God, to put an end to illegal oppression by means of arms? Of course, isn't that what all of the defensive weaponry involves? I believe that weapons are no longer a tool to end oppression. The second now belongs to other causes, but it is valid for everything that could be oppression, up to and including shooting at those tinfoil tanks. __________________ None.