but after reading you guys , made up my mind for a S&W 325PD 4'' .45ACP ; say you get hit , limp wrist will get you if you were using a semi auto, even during a self defense fight. I experience limp wrist while practicing with my Glock 30 and a local friend told me about it later ....with a revolver, that will not happen; besides, you can shoot any type of ammo , lead or whatever which I cannot use in the Glock. I reload all my .45 ammo , 185 gr, 200 gr, wadcutter and 255 gr lead slug, 230 round nose, ect....I use full moon clips that I have for my Webley MK VI , one in the gun, and 4 in a belt pouch and those can be reloaded in the gun REAL fast and are not in my way. Besides, I retreive them nice and clean for reloading.. I hope to get that Smith soon, for now, I 'll use the Glock and will remember your comments about limp wrist. Real nice reading and lots of ideas ...thanks, Dan