Thanks Jim... I have been researching dimensions on guns for a week now. I didnt even think about the M&P. I own a performance center shield that is my carry gun and i love it! I also wondered the same thing about tilting the XD in the box. We dont have a box at our local club matches for me to try with. i dont want to purchase and train with something i cant use when i decide to go to a bigger match. i had been looking into some of the 1911's on the market too. I guess one lesson that i have learned from shooting IDPA is that weight also helps to mitigate recoil, so with that in mind i was on the thought process of the heaviest legal gun i could find for CCP.
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