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ThomasT · June 3, 2017, 08:43 PM

I have a handgun mag that has an article on the Bond Arms "Liberator" made for Inland, the people making the new 30 carbine rifles. The test guns were chambered in 45 ACP. The upper and lower barrels did not shoot to the same point of aim at just 7 yards.

If you say you use a .410 shotgun for hunting some will tell you it isn't enough for rabbits at 20-25 yards from a 24" barrel but put a .410 in a handgun like the Bond Arms or one of those Taurus Judge guns with a 2-3" barrel and now it the best SD gun you can get. Really? And I read they are hard to cock and have a pretty heavy trigger pull. How is yours?

I hope you like your gun. I wouldn't buy one myself but thats just my choice. Plus the Bond derringer weighs 3oz more empty than the new J-Frame airweight I just bought that holds 5 rounds and weighs 17oz loaded.

I like derringers. I wish a quality derringer was made that only weighs around 10-12 oz and was reliable. And a 9mm would be just fine with me.

And like minorcan I hope you can post a review with some pics.

June 3, 2017, 08:43 PM	#4
ThomasT Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,765	I have a handgun mag that has an article on the Bond Arms "Liberator" made for Inland, the people making the new 30 carbine rifles. The test guns were chambered in 45 ACP. The upper and lower barrels did not shoot to the same point of aim at just 7 yards. If you say you use a .410 shotgun for hunting some will tell you it isn't enough for rabbits at 20-25 yards from a 24" barrel but put a .410 in a handgun like the Bond Arms or one of those Taurus Judge guns with a 2-3" barrel and now it the best SD gun you can get. Really? And I read they are hard to cock and have a pretty heavy trigger pull. How is yours? I hope you like your gun. I wouldn't buy one myself but thats just my choice. Plus the Bond derringer weighs 3oz more empty than the new J-Frame airweight I just bought that holds 5 rounds and weighs 17oz loaded. I like derringers. I wish a quality derringer was made that only weighs around 10-12 oz and was reliable. And a 9mm would be just fine with me. And like minorcan I hope you can post a review with some pics.