Thread: Federal EFMJ
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Old November 30, 2002, 11:27 AM   #24
BrokenArrow
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Depends on how they define "hollow nose/point" or if they borrow the language of the international treaties to decide:

"The Contracting Parties agree to abstain from the use of bullets which expand or flatten easily in the human body, such as bullets with a hard envelope which does not entirely cover the core, or is pierced with incisions."

Federal's EFMJ bullet does/has both (the jacket is internally incised).

They may not plug, but they don't always expand either, and they do come apart too. Have seen the 9/40 fail both ways in gel tests and game.

They are longer bullets at the same weight. That reduces case capacity, so ya get more pressure at the same speed, less speed at the same pressure. Why the 124/9 +P EFMJ only did 1065 fps from my G19.

5 round avgs, FBI test protocol

P45CSP1 200 gr Glock 21 12/14/00

bare gel 978 12.95/.653
cloth 984 13.7/.651
wboard 983 12.15/.676
pwood 982 12.65/.654
steel 992 12.2/.59 (jacket/core sep/77% ret wt)
glass 1002 11.7/.576 (67%)

P45CSP2 165 gr SIG P220 3/6/01

bare gel 1068 9.1/.74
cloth 1032 9.9/.722
wboard 1054 8.9/.726
pwood 1043 9.55/.743
steel 1047 8.15/.58 (71%)
glass 1047 7.85/.578 (61%)

P9CSP1 124 gr SIG P228 1063 fps 1/00

bare gel 12.85/.519
cloth 12.55/.519
wboard 11.1/.525
pwood 13.2/.51
steel 9.5/.466 (65%)
glass 8.5/.511 (60%)

Beretta 92

bare 11.35/.567
cloth 12.1/.552
wboard 10/.563
pwood 10.8/.561
steel 9.33/.492 (65%)
glass 7.9/.526 (55%)


P9CSP1 124 gr HK MP5 1225 fps 1/00

bare gel 11.3/.600
cloth 10.9/.596
wboard 9/.592
pwood 10.3/.596
steel 11.1/.491 (68%)
glass 8.6/.512 (57%)


P40CSP1

bare 12.45/.617
cloth 13.3/.605
wboard 12.8/.610
pwood 15.95/.579
steel 11.65/.513 (72%)
glass 11.75/.530 (67%)

Did about 970 fps from my G23, and the lot I had failed to expand more often than it did, even when pulled and pumped up to over 1100 fps. Bad lot?

Compare to:

147 HS 13/.62 bare, 15/.57 cloth
165 HS 13.5/.63, 14.5/.60
230 HS 13.7/.70, 16.4/.66

The 124 +P 9mm does 1065 from a G19. Into a deer at 15 ft did 14 inches, .56x.59 caliber.

Better than FMJ, but not the better JHPs. So far. Hear there is a 100 gr 9mm at 1200 fps now too? Still no .357SIG, though I have seen pictures of what must be prototypes?
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