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Originally Posted by 44 AMP
7.62x25mm Tokarev
1700fps is considerably higher than any data I have for this round, fired from a handgun. Like about 300fps higher. My books spec the 87gr @ 1390fps, so where is 1700fps coming from? A carbine??
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You need a different book. Winchester's 7.62X25 Tokarev has a 85 grain bullet moving 1654 fps from a 4.75" barrel. Sellier & Bellot shows a 85 grain bullet at 1857 fps from a 11.25" barrel. Hornady has load data for a 90 grain bullet at 1700 fps from a 4.75" barrel (page 845 tenth edition). I've easily made 1600+ fps from a 5" barrel with 85 grain bullets and published load data from Sierra.
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Originally Posted by 44 AMP
7.62x25mm Tokarev
this is an opinion, which I happen to disagree with, though I've never specifically tried to hit the A&B zones at 100 yds, I used to shoot the 200 yd gong (admittedly considerably wider, but at double the distance) and I've had dozens of guns that can hit it, in my hands, OFFHAND.
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My 100 yard estimate is opinion since I haven't shot a handgun at that range for a while. But based on my Ransom Rest data at 25 yards with lots of pistols, I stand by my statement. Some guns and ammo can't keep the shots in 6" at 25 yards. 6" at 100 yards translates into 1.5" at 25 yards. Any handgun that can keep all it's shots in 1.5" at 25 yards is exceptional - even with the ammo it likes best. Sure, some bullets will hit the A/B zone at 100 yards, but it will be a minority at best.