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Old December 21, 2011, 06:46 PM   #5
MTT TL
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Hmm, first off spell checker. It is free.
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If it weren't for our judicial system it would be beneficial to just shoot, and hopefully kill, there guy. this intern, would lead to less criminals on the street, or released after a shortened sentence to commit more crimes.

Unfortunately, in this country if you commit a lawful shooting in self defense or otherwise, your immediately thought of as guilty.

In Illinois it is legal for a civilian to use deadly force to stop a forcible felony. Burglary is a forcible felony. So if someone breaks into my house I could legally kill them, assuming I believe they are committing a forcible felony. I had this very conversation with a local assistant chief, whom assured be I would be committing a crime and would be arrested. When I pulled out my copy of Illinois compiled statues and showed him where it specifically stated that I could do what I said, he then went into a rant about right vs. wrong and that I would still be arrested and charged with a crime. Eventually the discussion ended with me saying fine, you go do that, but when your sued for wrongfully arrest don't say I didn't tell ya so.
Secondly you can't "legally kill" someone. You can use deadly force to defend yourself and end a threat. If they die subsequent to that defensive use; so be it.

Thirdly arguing with cops who are telling you that you are breaking the law is stupid and a good way to end up in jail.

Fourthly there is a presumption of innocence, not guilt. If the circumstances (such a crazy attitude or ideas from the defender) make the shooting appear something other than a defensive shooting than you will be arrested as the police collect evidence to determine if a crime has been committed.
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